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wanna get over this hump!
10-01-2014, 04:21 PM
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wanna get over this hump!
well... im new here and everything i've read is everything i already know for other people, but for some reason i cannot convince myself that its right for me? as if Im the exception... makes no sense i know.
I feel like I am trying to increase my calories to TDEE (which according to that scooby thing is about 2300). But I just cant seem to get there. I dont feel hungry. And I tell myself to eat anyway but then I feel as though Im just pushing through some barrier that's keeping me thin (although in reality it isnt). It's frustrating. Im probably averaging 1600 calories/day. I strength train (in the 2nd phase of Train to Be Awesome) 4days/week, kickboxing 2days/week (1hr), yoga once or twice per week, and im training for a marathon but not running as much as I need to be - maybe one or 2 days per week. Why dont I feel hungry? Im also a fan of intuitive eating and pushing myself to eat 2300calories feels counter-intuitive.
Ive been stuck at the same weight for the last 6months and cant lose no matter what I do. Even doing Nia's program I havent lost anything - weight or inches. I've made gains though so im not quitting - im definitley stronger than when I started.
I guess my reason for even joining this forum is for support. I dont know how to get past this "im just not hungry".
Im 37... been a dieter most of my life... chasing after that little number on the scale even though i know it will never be small enough. my lowest adult weight was 107# (Im 5ft). right now Im at my highest weight (130#) and im trying not to judge this number. My body looks totally different now than it did at 125# a year ago. I can deal with a higher number on the scale if I were noticing some kind of difference in my clothes... but they just keep getting tighter! A little help here please angel
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10-01-2014, 09:53 PM
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RE: wanna get over this hump!
First of all, welcome! So glad you have found us, and glad you are taking those first steps towards a healthier you...

Great job on the strength training and the gains - that is fabulous! So you are running once or twice a week in addition to the 4 days of strength training, 2 days of kickboxing and 1 - 2 days of yoga? If so, that is a *lot* of exercise. Remember, the body sees many environmental factors as stresses: in addition to the normal stresses of everyday life, exercise and eating at a deficit are also seen as stresses, and the body does not react positively to stress. One of the main concepts behind EM2WL involves removing some of those stresses by eating at or close to TDEE and cutting back on the often excessive cardio.

As far as your lack of appetite... After long periods of under-eating, we tend to lose those normal hunger cues. Through the process of the re-set, most will find that those hunger sensations return over time. Try integrating small calorie-dense small meals and steer away from anything labelled as "diet food". If you are short on calories, reach for things like almonds, nut butters, full fat dairy and things like avocados. Foods like that will help you reach your calorie goal very quickly, but should not leave you feeling overly stuffed. Over time, those hunger cues should return.

During this process, most find that intuitive eating is very difficult. It is natural that you may feel overly full or bloated as your body adjusts and adapts to the increased intake (these feelings will go away over time). Eating intuitively, you will probably tend towards under-eating, only because you are following those hunger cues which not longer exist..... I would suggest calorie counting and just increasing your calories very slowly over time until you finally reach your TDEE. Once you reach that level, you will want to eat consistently at that level for a minimum of 8 - 12 weeks (or more if your diet history is a long one...) to allow your metabolism to heal. You are exercising a lot and your body will definitely appreciate the additional fuel --- it will just take some time until it recognizes that the intake will be adequate and consistent.

Keep up that strength training and just keep plugging away at upping your calories - you are on the right path. We are here for support along the way :-)

Anitra Soto
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10-10-2014, 10:17 PM
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RE: wanna get over this hump!
Hello! I had to pipe in because I'm a fellow runner. Well, right now I'm not running anywhere. My last run was at five months preggo and my body very clearly told me "NO!!!" for a week and a half after that run...lol! I do miss it. I've never done a marathon, just a half and there's a seven miler that I like to do every year. One thing I've noticed is that the more miles my long run gets the more resistant to change it seems my body gets. Looking back on it, I think I still had my activity level set to moderately active and I thought at the time that was the right amount. But if I had to guess I'd say I still wasn't eating enough when I was training for races, which is why I stalled. Now you're not looking for loss as you're trying to find TDEE, which is wonderful, but you may find your TDEE to be much higher than you realize with all of that training!

This journey is certainly worth it!

Crystal
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10-11-2014, 02:43 PM
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RE: wanna get over this hump!
Hello and welcome!

Wow! You have a busy workout schedule! Im hungry just reading it! LOL
But, Like Anitra said when you have restricted your diet for long periods of time your body recognizes that low calorie number as your TDEE, and your body will hold on to fat. Since you are not hungry most of the time intuitive eating may not be a good fit for you. When you say you are averaging 1600 calories per day is that net? Do you eat you excersise calories? Since you're not tracking, how do you know how much you are eating?
You may want to consider a reset. But whatever you decide to do we are here to support you!

Joan
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10-13-2014, 05:43 PM
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RE: wanna get over this hump!
Ladies thank you so much for your feedback!
I just back from a much needed beach vacation and i think i am feeling much more empowered and determined.
I ran in a pretty tough trail race while i was gone and i realized a few things about myself:
1.)even though i think im "intuitively" eating there's still so much diet mentality stuck in my head that a lot of my choices aren't intuitive at all -they are diet and weight loss focused.
2.) im a lot stronger than i give myself credit for. and when i think i dont have any more to give, i still have more to give.
3.) i dont trust myself enough. i always think im lying or cheating myself and i dont wanna be that person that says they eat less than they really do or says they exercise more than they really do. Im really hard on myself.

Sooooo..... now that im back from vacation i really want to work on being nicer to myself, which includes feeding myself in a way that is going to make me FEEL good, and perform good.

Crystal i realized i have not been fueling myself appropriately last week when i raced. my friends kept telling me that i needed to eat the night before. i didnt "feel" hungry. but i decided to listen to them instead and eat anyway. the same went for breakfast the next morning. Im so glad i didnt eat intuitively... i ran an awesome race and i know it was because i fueled properly for once.

Joan to answer your questions, no i was not eating back exercise calories... well... sometimes i would but i would deliberately try NOT to. And then i would be so mad at myself for being tired! I was tracking my calories... but i hate doing it because it makes me totally crazy to see myself go over my calorie allotment. Im using MFP to track and so I changed the calories to reflect my TDEE so that maybe i wouldnt be so freaked out seeing my calories "in the red". I also am trying to give up the scale but dang it seems so hard! i feel like i need to be monitored.
Im still so afraid that i'm doing it wrong and that im "lying" to myself and Im just going to get "fatter". ugggh i hate the "f" word.
So... do you think using moderately active to calculate my TDEE is appropriate?
Im so glad i found this site. I know I can get through this with y'alls support! I guess the y'all gives away my geographical location wink
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10-14-2014, 05:54 AM
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RE: wanna get over this hump!
I would say that you should be at more than moderately active with everything you are doing - if you use the Scooby calculator, I would put you in at least the 5-6 hrs if not higher because you also have to count just being on your feet normally too. Most of us under-estimate our activity level (me too - I'm trying to figure that one out). If you look at my journal, you'll see that I'm trying to figure out my TDEE and it's working for me. I keep upping my calories every two weeks and I'm NOT gaining (in fact, I've lost weight, which is weird). I'm going to keep going until I start gaining weight and then I'll know my true TDEE and can work with it better. (And it's fab as I get to eat more!!!!)

You can do this. Remember, food is fuel but it's also really yummy and can be fun if you like to cook (which I do). And once you start eating at the right amount, you'll then be more likely to be able to eat more intuitively - you've just messed with your system so much that it's not working for you. So work with it! And good luck!
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10-14-2014, 09:26 AM
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RE: wanna get over this hump!
(10-01-2014 09:53 PM)AnitraSoto Wrote:  So you are running once or twice a week in addition to the 4 days of strength training, 2 days of kickboxing and 1 - 2 days of yoga? If so, that is a *lot* of exercise.

I tend to agree with mrsukyankee that you may be underestimating your activity level, which will, in return result in you still under eating. Be honest with your activity level so that you get a TDEE that is as accurate as possible, then just work your way up to that level. Do it slowly and give both your body, and more importantly, your mind, time to adjust. It is definitely just as much a mental journey for some as a physical one. Take it slow and you will do great!

Anitra Soto
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