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Finally working on gaining...
04-23-2016, 03:53 PM
Post: #231
RE: Finally working on gaining...
Thanks Kmac and Emma, all you say makes perfect sense of course. My mind understands all that... but it's still hard. I'll just keep going. I keep trying to tell myself that at least I'm not gaining right now. If this is how much work I have to do to stay the same, it really sucks, but that might just be the way it is for now. Something has to change eventually... There is absolutely no way I can just be okay as I am: morbidly obese, high risk for heart disease, out of breath, constant heartburn, cringe-worthy reflection... But I feel like I am doing everything right, so maybe my body just needs more time. I am okay with slow and steady, I really am. But so far there is no slow loss, there is just staying the same. It's just really difficult to keep putting the hard work in without any results to motivate me. I'm trying to use the "well, at least you aren't getting fatter" as motivation, but that's not really enough.

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04-23-2016, 03:59 PM
Post: #232
RE: Finally working on gaining...
Yesterday we did a wellness day for work, and one of the activities was a Barre Sculpt class. It was crazy hard! A lot of it I couldn't actually do. I asked the instructor for some suggestions (she was going around helping and correcting most of the people, but skipping the overweight people, no point, I guess she thought) but she just said "You would have to sign up for a session and spend a lot more time here before we could even begin to help you." Maybe she was trying to be nice and not just say that I'm a hopeless cause, but it still hurt my feelings. So I did what I always do and just tried to make a joke of it all, making people laugh at how ridiculous I was, flopping around like a whale on the floor and the barre. Sigh. And so many mirrors.... I can almost forget how huge and gross I look until confronted with a room full of mirrors. At least we got to go do art next, THAT, I can do.

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04-23-2016, 07:44 PM
Post: #233
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What?!? I'd like to punch her in her face! That is extremely rude. Try and shake it off - people like that have their own issues.
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04-23-2016, 08:48 PM
Post: #234
RE: Finally working on gaining...
Wow, I would not be taking that class again... Who needs that kind of negativity? Especially from an instructor who's purpose is to teach (not criticize...) That is sad, and I am sorry she said those thoughtless things, especially to someone who is obviously there trying to better themselves!

As far as your intake, are you still eating at that 15% cut? Before you went to that cut, would you estimate that you were eating more or less than that amount? (sorry but I can't remember the details from that other thread...) You may just have to keep tweaking your intake to find that sweet spot..

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04-24-2016, 08:54 AM
Post: #235
RE: Finally working on gaining...
Son of a biscuit!!!! Seriously???? That woman ought to be shot 'cause hanging is too good for her. angry No one needs that horse poop when they're tackling a lifestyle change.

Shake it off and forget that wench.

Please keep going with this method. It works. Absolutely. From reading back through your journal, it looks like you've been given great advice that I'll echo.

1. Get control of your stress. I didn't see as much weight loss until I did.
2. Track your food religiously. It sucks, but it's so easy to eat more than you think.
3. Consistency wins in the end. Consistency with macros, calories, and in the gym.
4. Use Happy Scale or track your weight on Excel and add a trend line. It was hard for me to see the weight loss right after finishing my reset, but tracking it by looking at the trend showed me it was happening.
5. Pick a good workout that works for you. I swear by New Rules of Lifting for Women as an awesome start-up program. I was able to do it at the beginning, but it was challenging and I saw change. It gives you six months of progressive training so you don't have to think about it. Want it, but can't afford it? Private message me your address and I'll mail you my old copy.
6. Get some comfy clothes. Especially workout clothes. Have you tried Old Navy online? Although their quality is inconsistent, they have some great buys for plus sized women, especially when on sale (and there is always a sale), and free shipping on orders $50 and up. I swear by their pixie pants and boyfriend jeans. The pixie pants have enough structure to look professional but also enough stretch to be wearable as you transition sizes. You only need a few, well chosen staples to get you through. For example, you can wear a pair of black pants multiple days in a row and no one would ever notice they're the same pants. Promise. I've been wearing the same four pairs of pants for months now. One pair of black pants, two pair of jeans, one pair of khaki's. I've had to transition to smaller sizes, but I just buy them in the same style and keep on going. No need to waste money on a full wardrobe until you're at a consistent size. No one notices if they are the same because they're so basic.

Sending all the positivity I can!
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04-24-2016, 09:48 AM
Post: #236
RE: Finally working on gaining...
Great advice, every word ^
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04-24-2016, 12:47 PM
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(04-23-2016 08:48 PM)AnitraSoto Wrote:  As far as your intake, are you still eating at that 15% cut? Before you went to that cut, would you estimate that you were eating more or less than that amount? (sorry but I can't remember the details from that other thread...) You may just have to keep tweaking your intake to find that sweet spot..

I am still eating at 15% cut, yes. I would estimate that I was probably eating more than that amount overall, but sporadically... like 3000+ one day and 1500 the next, type of thing. I did track off and on, and would be eating pretty much the same as I am now. So would you suggest I tweak it down a bit? and by "a bit" would that be like 100cals a day? Or more?

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04-24-2016, 01:10 PM (This post was last modified: 04-24-2016 01:13 PM by LauCo77.)
Post: #238
RE: Finally working on gaining...
(04-24-2016 08:54 AM)Tipularia Wrote:  1. Get control of your stress. I didn't see as much weight loss until I did.
2. Track your food religiously. It sucks, but it's so easy to eat more than you think.
3. Consistency wins in the end. Consistency with macros, calories, and in the gym.
4. Use Happy Scale or track your weight on Excel and add a trend line. It was hard for me to see the weight loss right after finishing my reset, but tracking it by looking at the trend showed me it was happening.
5. Pick a good workout that works for you. I swear by New Rules of Lifting for Women as an awesome start-up program. I was able to do it at the beginning, but it was challenging and I saw change. It gives you six months of progressive training so you don't have to think about it. Want it, but can't afford it? Private message me your address and I'll mail you my old copy.
6. Get some comfy clothes. Especially workout clothes. Have you tried Old Navy online? Although their quality is inconsistent, they have some great buys for plus sized women, especially when on sale (and there is always a sale), and free shipping on orders $50 and up. I swear by their pixie pants and boyfriend jeans. The pixie pants have enough structure to look professional but also enough stretch to be wearable as you transition sizes. You only need a few, well chosen staples to get you through. For example, you can wear a pair of black pants multiple days in a row and no one would ever notice they're the same pants. Promise. I've been wearing the same four pairs of pants for months now. One pair of black pants, two pair of jeans, one pair of khaki's. I've had to transition to smaller sizes, but I just buy them in the same style and keep on going. No need to waste money on a full wardrobe until you're at a consistent size. No one notices if they are the same because they're so basic.

Thanks for the advice Tipularia! I have heard it before, of course, but it is helpful to keep hearing it!
1. Stress. I am SOOO much better in this category than I was a year ago, or have been in a long time. Things are really looking up at my work, some people leaving at the end of the school year that really need to go. My new (this school year) Principal really likes me and sees me as an asset, which was NOT the case with the last one. My family is great, i love my house, the yard is coming along... finances aren't great, but not scary. I want to try some yoga this summer, and be more consistent with meditation.
2. Tracking - I am doing that now. Trying to be as absolutely strict with it as possible. Everything that passes my lips gets tracked. And trying to simplify my eating more, and plan ahead for family meals. Also helps re: #1.
3.Yes, consistency. That is often my problem. I stick things out for a month or two and then slack off. I feel like the morning gym is becoming a routine now, so that's good.
4. Weighing - I have a Withings scale that tracks the trend for me, which is helpful. I was trying to jusy "get off the scale" like so many recommend, but then when I stepped on it just the once, it through me off for days. I think weighing daily and seeing "trends" is healthier for my psyche.
5. I do have NROLFW, and did the whole first part and half of the second a couple years ago. I really liked part 1, but not so much part 2. I am okay with the workout I have going now, but I may try Part 1 again.
6. Clothes. Oh, how I loathe clothes. I know I need to get some more, but I just.... ugh. I did buy four tshirts at Addition Elle the other day, so that's a start. I have work clothes to get me through until the end of June, I think. It's difficult in Canada, because there are so few stores that carry plus sized clothes. Our Old Navy's have women's XL, but that is only about a size 12/14. There are a few stores, Addition Elle, Pennington's, Reitman's, Laura Plus, Ricki's... but oddly most of those stores are actually the same company so there isn't much variety and everyone I see over size 16 is wearing the same clothes. Can't order online anymore because we don't have much for online clothing retailers that sell plus, and the dollar is WAY too low to order from US companies (that used to be my go-to). I don't feel like there are significantly less plus-sized women here (although statistics say otherwise) but Canadian clothing retailers just don't seem interested in us. I remember a couple years ago I was visiting a friend of mine in West Virginia. She and I went shopping, and went into a trendy, high-end clothing store, lots of name brands and cool clothes. When the sweet girl working there came to ask "How y'all doing? Can I help you with anythang?" (so cute!) I said what I always say "No thank you, you wouldn't have my size". And she looked aghast and said "Of course we do! We have clothes to fit beautiful people at all sizes!" I had never heard that before!!! I tried on dozens of beautiful jeans (True Religion, Miss Me, Diesel) that WERE IN MY SIZE! I had never been able to do that before. It was amazing, even though I couldn't afford any of them. happy But... I digress.

So, I will keep on keeping on... if no loss in the next week, I will try "tweaking" the calories a bit. Just not sure how much exactly.

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04-24-2016, 09:23 PM
Post: #239
RE: Finally working on gaining...
I would give it another week or two, and then (if you are fairly confident that you were eating at or over your TDEE prior to this cut) maybe drop it down by 100 calories. I know I normally recommend going up on the intake, but you have been and continue to see gains, maybe just try dropping it a bit (100 or 200 calories) and see if you can get that gain under control. Remember, when you can always take a diet break in the future and see if you can push that intake higher again, but for now I would try to get that gain under control. It truly will probably help to minimize your stress level and result in a more positive result. Again, give it another week or two, then just change that one thing and see how your body responds...

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04-26-2016, 09:40 PM
Post: #240
RE: Finally working on gaining...
Okay. My life has been changed. I just spent every spare moment over the last 24hrs reading all of Tilpularia's journal and I am turning over a new leaf of positivity! Negative begets negative, I know that in theory. And most people would way I'm a pretty positive person overall, but on my journal I seem to have used it as a venting board far too often. At times it is necessary, sure. But there needs to be (as in all things) some balance.

I've started weighting daily again so I can see a trend, and am staying at my 15% cut for another week or so, which is 2360. I'm finding it pretty easy to eat there, although I need to be better on my protein. I need to hit the gym 5x a week just for the sake of routine, so I've been separating muscles groups to give rest time, and then doing a HIIT day Thursday's and a Big 5 day Friday's. Working for me so far, but I think I'm really for an actual program soon.

I just went and looked at my weight trend over the last couple years. Just before my reset (steady loss as I was eating at 1200 cals) then the big gain over my 12 week reset. Continued to gain over the summer of 2014 (since I don't work, I eat more)

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