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Eat, Play, Write
02-22-2017, 06:21 PM
Post: #161
RE: Eat, Play, Write
Your weight still looks very stable, so I wouldn't freak out. It will take a month or so to see if have truly passed your TDEE. For me the first two weeks after an increase are always the hardest then aboutbweek 3/4 things even out? Have you noticed that too? You are doing awesome.

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02-22-2017, 08:40 PM
Post: #162
RE: Eat, Play, Write
(02-22-2017 06:21 PM)Original_Beauty Wrote:  Your weight still looks very stable, so I wouldn't freak out. It will take a month or so to see if have truly passed your TDEE. For me the first two weeks after an increase are always the hardest then aboutbweek 3/4 things even out? Have you noticed that too? You are doing awesome.

Thanks! I haven't freaked out quite yet, just observing. :-) This is my 5th day at 2200 (ave 2195), and for the week before that I averaged 2160. I went down to 2000 for the previous week, but before that I was at 2100-2150 for 11 days. So I've been hanging out in the 2100-2200 neighborhood since Jan. 10 (43 days). My moving average weight, which I think tells more than daily weights, has gone up only 3 pounds since Jan. 10, but it's been a steady rise. (It's up a total of 5.5.)

I should add that although I have started some weight training, it's not much and I am not yet lifting heavy, so I doubt I'm building much muscle to account for the weight. I plan to get serious about weight training after we get settled in our new digs in May, but I can't add that stress to my life right now, so mostly I'm walking 45-90 minutes most days, and going a little bit of weight training 3 days.

I'll see what happens the next couple of days, and if then decide whether to hold steady another week or back off 50 calories. Does that make sense?
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02-23-2017, 10:52 AM
Post: #163
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Holding steady. But correct me if I'm wrong - these numbers look like a pretty steady weight increase to me (and that is reflected in a steady increase in my Happy Scale average, which is steadily upward, no drops). I'm still having trouble understanding how a steady increase in weight (with minimal lifting, so it's not muscle) can possibly not indicate that I have reached (or passed) TDEE.

Starting weight in Nov. - ~145
@~2125/day - 1-10 to 1-30 up & back down 148.2-149.4
@2000/day -- 1-31 to 2-10 up & back down, 149.4-150.4
@2128-2190/day -- 2-12 to 2-18 up & back down, 150 to 151.2
@2200
2-19 151.8
2-20 151.4
2-21 151
2-22 151.6
2-23 151.6

BMR - 1296
TDEE - Moderate-2010, Strenuous-2237, ave 2163
Currently eating 2200
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02-23-2017, 12:09 PM
Post: #164
RE: Eat, Play, Write
Sheila, I was going through this thread http://forums.eatmore2weighless.com/show...?tid=13489 and found some great post there on finding tdee, specially this part by Hannah:

"I think the struggle we have is we want to get to the reset so bad. We've already spent a period of time getting to what we think is our TDEE. We don't want to spend any time confirming we are actually there (its like we want to make an Indy 500 pit stop and get back in the race instead of a long distance road trip lunch stop to enjoy the scenery.) What results is we may stop a few hundred calories short of the goal and make our journey more convoluted than it needed to be (ending back up trying to confirm our TDEE which we should have done in the first place). Whether we were the hare, ripping the bandaid off and increasing calories by 1000 a day and putting on 10-20 pounds or the tortoise, slowly and steadily increasing calories 100 at a time and putting on 2-10 pounds, it took some length of time to arrive there. Instead of a journey of 1) increase to estimated TDEE, 2) confirm TDEE, 3) start TDEE/reset, our minds say 1) increase to estimated TDEE and 2) start TDEE/reset like the confirmation of TDEE is just a blip on the screen. "

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02-23-2017, 02:01 PM
Post: #165
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(02-23-2017 12:09 PM)Tereza Toledo Wrote:  Sheila, I was going through this thread http://forums.eatmore2weighless.com/show...?tid=13489 and found some great post there on finding tdee, specially this part by Hannah:

"I think the struggle we have is we want to get to the reset so bad. We've already spent a period of time getting to what we think is our TDEE. We don't want to spend any time confirming we are actually there (its like we want to make an Indy 500 pit stop and get back in the race instead of a long distance road trip lunch stop to enjoy the scenery.) What results is we may stop a few hundred calories short of the goal and make our journey more convoluted than it needed to be (ending back up trying to confirm our TDEE which we should have done in the first place). Whether we were the hare, ripping the bandaid off and increasing calories by 1000 a day and putting on 10-20 pounds or the tortoise, slowly and steadily increasing calories 100 at a time and putting on 2-10 pounds, it took some length of time to arrive there. Instead of a journey of 1) increase to estimated TDEE, 2) confirm TDEE, 3) start TDEE/reset, our minds say 1) increase to estimated TDEE and 2) start TDEE/reset like the confirmation of TDEE is just a blip on the screen. "


That's brilliant, Tereza. Thanks. It is hard to escape our cultural expectations of instant gratification, for sure. I will try to think of this period as a delightful picnic with birds singing and a fabulous view.
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02-23-2017, 05:33 PM
Post: #166
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Lol, Sheila, love your sense of humor! I know I 's hard and that we try to analyze and make sense of every single thing, even though we know, deep inside, that we need to let things happen on their on. Kudos for sticking to it. Know that you are not alone in this!

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02-23-2017, 05:57 PM
Post: #167
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(02-23-2017 05:33 PM)Tereza Toledo Wrote:  Lol, Sheila, love your sense of humor! I know I 's hard and that we try to analyze and make sense of every single thing, even though we know, deep inside, that we need to let things happen on their on. Kudos for sticking to it. Know that you are not alone in this!

I went and read a number of posts on the thread you mentioned and was surprised at how like mine some of them are! ;-)
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02-24-2017, 09:07 AM
Post: #168
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I know, right? and if we dig deeper in older threads, we are going to find many more similar posts that helps us understand better the whole picture. You are doing progress, Sheila, even though you don't feel it all the time.

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02-24-2017, 08:07 PM
Post: #169
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I wrote a post earlier but must have previewed without posting. Sigh.

So I'm up a pound today -- sixth day at 2200, up 2.6 since I increased from ~2150. I know it's not fat, but still, wow. My Happy Scale moving average is also higher than ever, and has shown a steady increase all along. I'm trying to stick it out (and have done so today), but I really don't want to hit +10 lbs. I'm hoping today's 1 lb increase was a fluke due to sodium or something, and that maybe the 2.6 for the week is water for some reason, but it's hard. I FEEL fatter - belly roll coming back and other porky feelings. I guess I'll go read some more success stories to perk myself up.

Starting weight in Nov. - ~145
@~2125/day - 1-10 to 1-30 up & back down 148.2-149.4
@2000/day -- 1-31 to 2-10 up & back down, 149.4-150.4
@2128-2190/day -- 2-12 to 2-18 up & back down, 150 to 151.2
@2200
2-19 151.8
2-20 151.4
2-21 151
2-22 151.6
2-23 151.6
2-24 152.6

BMR - 1296
TDEE - Moderate-2010, Strenuous-2237, ave 2163
Currently eating 2200
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02-24-2017, 10:33 PM
Post: #170
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LOL about the porky feelings! I feel fatter too. Sigh. Well, it's all part of the process, right?

See if you can stick with the new calorie goal for 4-6 weeks. Remember how my weight stabilized at week 5 a while back?
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