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Alternatives to Soy
07-20-2012, 08:22 AM
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Alternatives to Soy
I'm currently working on my transition to plant-based. It's been nine days since I've had meat. I know that's not a ton, but here I am.

I want to get protein in but I'm not really wanting to do a ton of soy products. It seems like so many things are soy-based. My reason being, but my understanding is that soy messes with estrogen levels. I have hypothyroidism and I had to get progesterone shots in order to get pregnant and maintain my last pregnancy. So of course I don't want to go jacking up my hormones.

Anyone have any good information for me? I'm very new to this. I think I probably need to read a few good books that teach me the basics.

Actually, that gives me an idea. I'm really rambling now...lol! Maybe we could work on putting together a list of vegetarian and vegan resources for healthy eating and sticky it at the top of the forum.

Anyways, back to soy. Anyone have any info. on this and/or alternatives?

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07-20-2012, 08:46 AM
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RE: Alternatives to Soy
I'm no doc but I'm not sure that is true about soy, the Japanese have been using it for centuries with no health risks. I am pretty sure I read something like that in NROLFW. I drink soy milk every day and use soy protein shakes too, the only alternative I can find is hemp protein shakes and boy do they taste bad Sad
I try not to eat soy products too much as they tend to be processed.
I use beans eg, chick peas, black eyes, haricot,gungo peas, red split peas ( I could go on! )
Nuts and seeds are great as well.
Hemp seeds, flax seed and chia seed all have protein but also have omega3 and aminos. I sprinkle them on salads, rice and in home made breads.
There is protein in all kinds of things like strawberries, pak choi, kale etc. Sure not huge amounts but it all adds up.
Oh and I can't forget nut butters, peanut, almond and my favourite cashew.
Hope that helps, I do tend to go on a bit but I am passionate about vegan nutrution. I have to be raising 4 kids that way! happy
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07-20-2012, 08:49 AM
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RE: Alternatives to Soy
Seitan is a good substitute for some soy 'meat' products. It's used in Asia and I can easily buy it in my local Chinese supermarket and health food stores. It's also known as 'mock duck' or 'mock chicken' and usually comes in tins. The ready-made bought stuff does tend to have a small amount of soy in it but apparently it's quite easily made at home without soy, there are lots of recipes online. I've not tried this yet but will defo try it at some point.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheat_gluten_(food)

Almond milk is becoming very popular as an alternative to soy milk. It's not widely available where I am yet but I did get to try some chocolate almond milk and that was very nice.
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07-20-2012, 08:59 AM
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RE: Alternatives to Soy
For protein shakes I've recently discovered pea protein powder which is relatively neutral in taste and can easily be added to food.

I've used it in porridge so far which works fine.
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07-20-2012, 09:08 AM
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RE: Alternatives to Soy
(07-20-2012 08:59 AM)Crocatilla Wrote:  For protein shakes I've recently discovered pea protein powder which is relatively neutral in taste and can easily be added to food.

I've used it in porridge so far which works fine.

Will have to look out for that. I tried adding the hemp protein to porridge the other morning just to use it up and oh it was worse than the shakes, no one in my house would eat it and that is really saying something! tongue
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07-22-2012, 06:39 AM
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I too use pea protein powder from Pulsin-not the best tasting in the world, but doablehappy
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07-24-2012, 01:22 AM
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(07-20-2012 08:46 AM)rastaempress Wrote:  I'm no doc but I'm not sure that is true about soy, the Japanese have been using it for centuries with no health risks.

Japanese use a lot of fermented soy products which don't have the same issue with oestrogen as unfermented ones. There is plenty of recent evidence that having too much unfermented soy such as soy milk or canned soy beans can cause hormonal issues and even increase the likelihood of breast cancer.
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07-24-2012, 06:51 AM
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I am primarily a vegetarian, although I do eat fish and eggs, so I have no trouble getting my protein in, but some other good sources of protein are:
Quinoa
Brown Rice
Beans
Barley
Whole Wheat
Almonds and nuts (and nut butters)
Seeds (chia, sesame, flax)

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07-24-2012, 08:18 AM
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(07-24-2012 01:22 AM)Ange Wrote:  
(07-20-2012 08:46 AM)rastaempress Wrote:  I'm no doc but I'm not sure that is true about soy, the Japanese have been using it for centuries with no health risks.

Japanese use a lot of fermented soy products which don't have the same issue with oestrogen as unfermented ones. There is plenty of recent evidence that having too much unfermented soy such as soy milk or canned soy beans can cause hormonal issues and even increase the likelihood of breast cancer.

There is still no substantial evidence about soy as there are 2 sides to the debate. Things like alcohol use, obesity and lack of exercise are greater risk factors of cancer and often skew the research done. As long as you are not using huge amounts of soy, the genereal consensus is that it will be ok.big grin
http://www.breastcancer.org/tips/nutriti...ds/soy.jsp
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07-24-2012, 05:52 PM (This post was last modified: 07-24-2012 05:54 PM by LadyKat.)
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RE: Alternatives to Soy
(07-24-2012 08:18 AM)rastaempress Wrote:  
(07-24-2012 01:22 AM)Ange Wrote:  
(07-20-2012 08:46 AM)rastaempress Wrote:  I'm no doc but I'm not sure that is true about soy, the Japanese have been using it for centuries with no health risks.

Japanese use a lot of fermented soy products which don't have the same issue with oestrogen as unfermented ones. There is plenty of recent evidence that having too much unfermented soy such as soy milk or canned soy beans can cause hormonal issues and even increase the likelihood of breast cancer.

There is still no substantial evidence about soy as there are 2 sides to the debate. Things like alcohol use, obesity and lack of exercise are greater risk factors of cancer and often skew the research done. As long as you are not using huge amounts of soy, the genereal consensus is that it will be ok.big grin
http://www.breastcancer.org/tips/nutriti...ds/soy.jsp

yes it is true about soy messing with your hormones for females who are child bearing age. that was the top thing I was told to stay away from when I was pregnant with my daughter. so defintely don't do soy unless you don't want any more kids
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