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Eat, Play, Write
01-23-2017, 11:10 AM
Post: #91
RE: Eat, Play, Write
(01-23-2017 08:55 AM)Tereza Toledo Wrote:  Frosty, yes, it is temporary. Have you reached TDEE yet? This is the thoughest part of the process (well, except for cut, when you start cutting cals, you will miss each one of them, trust me). Use this time to nurture your self love, loving you and appreciating what your body does for you in each and every step of this journey. It's hard to get dressed when your clothes don't feel right. Some thoughts here: http://pin.it/OUhoEol

Thanks for the link, Tereza - good article. Most of my clothes are fine. It was several long-sleeved "t's" that are the perfect weight (ha!) for our current temps. I can wear them, but they feel tighter. But I sucked it up and went with it. I mean, who really cares what I look like on my walk/run? It's that I'm walking/running/eating/living that matters!
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01-23-2017, 12:18 PM
Post: #92
RE: Eat, Play, Write
Yay! I'm glad you went for you walk! I agree that living and enjoying life is what matters! By the way, I love the pic with you adorable baby!

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01-23-2017, 01:53 PM
Post: #93
RE: Eat, Play, Write
(01-23-2017 12:18 PM)Tereza Toledo Wrote:  Yay! I'm glad you went for you walk! I agree that living and enjoying life is what matters! By the way, I love the pic with you adorable baby!

Aww, thanks. That's my Lily. She's been my competition partner (she has titles in obedience, tracking, rally), hiking buddy, & cuddle bug, has worked as a therapy dog with kids, and has accompanied me - and upstaged me! - at book signings. And she makes me laugh.
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01-25-2017, 11:27 AM
Post: #94
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Checking in. I've been eating 2100 for 2 weeks now. I'm up yesterday and today.

I just organized my numbers so that I could see them a bit more clearly.

Started EM2WL 11/21 - weighed 144 (since June), was averaging 1500-1600 calories

Nov 21 to Dec 18, Averaging ~1550 to 2000 calories (increasing every week or so)
Weight increased from 144 to 146 (+2), moving average from 144.4 to 145.9 (+1.5)


Dec 19-Jan 10, Averaging ~2000 calories (23 days)
Weight increased from 145.8 to 148.2 (+2.4), average from 145.9 to 147.6 (+1.7)

Jan 11-25 (past 2 weeks), Averaging ~2100 calories
148.2 to 149.2 (+1), average 147.6 to 148.6 (+1)

So I have a total gain gain of 5.2, moving average gain of 4.6. I realize that's not very much, but my numbers do show a steady increase. Does this look like getting close to TDEE looks? The calculator estimates my TDEE at 2191 for Strenuous, 1970 for Moderate. I think my exercise level is in between since I've cut back on running, so that would be about 2081. If that's about right, I'm there or slightly over. Anyway, I'm not going to add any more calories until I see what happens at this level for at least another week, but the upward trend seems pretty clear.

So here's the question - finally!
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I'm holding more or less steady at 2100, but at 4-5 lb more than the weight used to calculate TDEE, which means I'm eating more than I need if I don't return to that weight once my body trusts the food, correct?
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Past 2 weeks
1-12 149
1-13 148-8
1-14 148.6
1-15 148.6
1-16 149.4
1-17 148.8
1-18 148.8
1-19 149.4
1-20 150
1-21 148.6
1-22 149.2
1-23 148.2
1-24 148.6
1-25 149.2

BMR - 1271
TDEE - 2081 (estimated - Moderate/Strenuous)
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01-26-2017, 11:22 AM
Post: #95
RE: Eat, Play, Write
Another update, and wondering what to do now.

Started at 144 & using 144 as weight for calculator. I'm averaging Moderate & Strenuous because I get from 4-7 hours a week. That gives me 2081. At Moderate, it would be 1970.

My weight has ranged from 147-150 for the past 34 days, as follows:

18 days @ 2000/day - Ranged 147-148.4
16 days @ 2100/day - Ranged 148.2-150
Happy Scale shows a steady upward trend, too.

So, correct me if my thinking is off, but it seems to me I'm eating OVER my actual TDEE for 144 pounds, right? Because although my weights are fairly steady, they are higher than the weight I'm using as my starting point. Don't we want to find the TDEE that maintains us at our starting weight?

I'm thinking I should back off by 100 calories to see if my weight comes back down, and once I find that magic #, stay there for a while to reset. Am I wrong?

Past 2 weeks, eating 2100
1-13 148-8
1-14 148.6
1-15 148.6
1-16 149.4
1-17 148.8
1-18 148.8
1-19 149.4
1-20 150
1-21 148.6
1-22 149.2
1-23 148.2
1-24 148.6
1-25 149.2
1-26 148.8

BMR - 1271
TDEE - 2081 (estimated - Moderate/Strenuous)
Average past week - 2114
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01-26-2017, 12:01 PM
Post: #96
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It seems to me that your weight has stayed stable in the past two weeks eating at 2100 calories. You started at 148.8 and 14 days later it's 148.8. After all, it is ONLY two weeks.

Why not stay at 2100 for another 30 days? You seem to be tip-toeing and my overall sense is that you're anxious to drop calories. Your journey only started in November...

I don't think you're at your true TDEE. Look at the bright side -- you're eating way more and your weight is only up four pounds! Don't rush your recovery.

Stay the course!
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01-26-2017, 12:49 PM
Post: #97
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(01-26-2017 12:01 PM)daphne67 Wrote:  It seems to me that your weight has stayed stable in the past two weeks eating at 2100 calories. You started at 148.8 and 14 days later it's 148.8. After all, it is ONLY two weeks.

Why not stay at 2100 for another 30 days? You seem to be tip-toeing and my overall sense is that you're anxious to drop calories. Your journey only started in November...

I don't think you're at your true TDEE. Look at the bright side -- you're eating way more and your weight is only up four pounds! Don't rush your recovery.

Stay the course!


I get all that. My question is this - shouldn't true tdee keep us at the weight we use to determine it? It seems I'm maintaining higher than that weight, which seems to mean I'm eating slightly too many calories, no?
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01-26-2017, 01:08 PM
Post: #98
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(01-26-2017 12:49 PM)sheilawrites Wrote:  I get all that. My question is this - shouldn't true tdee keep us at the weight we use to determine it? It seems I'm maintaining higher than that weight, which seems to mean I'm eating slightly too many calories, no?

KISS.

Think you are overthinking this. TDEE needs to be for what you way now. You need to have enough calories to maintain yourself now.
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01-26-2017, 02:08 PM
Post: #99
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(01-26-2017 01:08 PM)West Wrote:  
(01-26-2017 12:49 PM)sheilawrites Wrote:  I get all that. My question is this - shouldn't true tdee keep us at the weight we use to determine it? It seems I'm maintaining higher than that weight, which seems to mean I'm eating slightly too many calories, no?

KISS.

Think you are overthinking this. TDEE needs to be for what you way now. You need to have enough calories to maintain yourself now.


And why is that? It doesn't make sense. If calorie intake maintains a higher weight than we use as our baseline, then we have not found equilibrium - TDEE - for that base weight. I'm not cutting back yet, but I want to understand the reasoning behind maintaining at a higher weight.
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01-26-2017, 02:15 PM
Post: #100
RE: Eat, Play, Write
I agree . . . It's only been 2 weeks at your 2100 calories. We were going to stay there for 4-6 weeks, remember? :-) That's going to let you observe what your weight does over time, since you are so close to calculated TDEE it takes that long to really see what's happening.

You are right, your current TDEE is going to be slightly more than what your TDEE was when you started. We're supposed to recalculate if weight goes up or down by 5 pounds. You are only at 4 pounds up, so no need to worry about that. The difference in TDEE will only be slight.

You are looking for the number of calories you need to keep your weight stable now. So when you do want to lose weight down the road, you can just add or subtract what your true TDEE is vs what the calculator says, and that could give you a general idea of where you'll be at calorie-wise when you weigh 144 again.

I hope that makes sense. That's how I understand it anyway. Don't worry about all that now. Just eat and see what happens!
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